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March 29, 2008

Richard Florida

SanFrooklyn

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NY Times'
Noam Cohen (of Obama's a Mac, Hillary a PC fame) on the Brooklyn-Bay Area
nexus:

Much the way Hollywood people have shuttled between Los Angeles and Manhattan for decades, or academics commute on the Acela between Morningside Heights and Cambridge, Mass., there is a young, earnest population that is beating a path between artsy, gentrifying neighborhoods in Brooklyn and their counterparts in the Bay Area, especially East Oakland and the area south of Market Street in San Francisco, or SoMa.

Richard Florida, the author of “The Rise of the Creative Class,” which argues that urban renewal is sparked by high concentrations of high-tech workers, artists, gay men and lesbians, ranked San Francisco No. 1 on his “creativity index” and New York City No. 9. Although Mr. Florida did not break out data for Brooklyn, “anecdotally it has a large concentration of creative people who have moved from Manhattan and elsewhere,” he wrote in an e-mail message. “I am confident if such data existed, Brooklyn would do very well.”

He added that the populations drawn to both areas by alternative art and music scenes, and by a tolerance for diversity, were looking for a “messy urbanism, a clash of different styles that Brooklyn still retains, that the East Bay still retains.”

Other communities across the country also fit this bill, but what Brooklyn and the East Bay share is proximity to more cosmopolitan centers — Manhattan and San Francisco — where the “creative class,” many of whom are freelancers, can earn a living.

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xian

I call the Brooklyn/Oakland nexus "Brokeland"

Wil

The East Coast people have ruined Berkeley. Prices are higher, the hippies are relocating to the North Cast and Seattle, and the mellow atmosphere has changed ..Don't get me wrong, I have many, many easterners as very close lifelong friends. But I really think that even within the creative class there are significant regional differences.

The NYT article is accurate, many people shuttle back and forth between New York and the Bay Area, as well as between the Bay Area and France.

Michael Wells

As long ago as at least the late '60's people noticed the Bay Area/New York shuttle, and an equivalent Portland/Boston movement. Something about equivalent cultural styles. New Yorkers who come to Portland either love it for its slower pace, or leave in frustration within 6 months because of the lack of confrontation ("Nobody tells you what they mean!")

John West

'The East Coast people have ruined Berkeley'

Yeah, San Fran too. Called the Manhattanization of San Francisco, which once was a working man's town, city of homecomings, mysterious, romantic. There's a gradient of risk-aversion that runs across America to the Pacific, the most timid clinging to the coast where grandpa staggered off the banana boat from Bialystok a century ago. But at last a few hardy pioneers have got them to cross the Appalachians, and they're busy as beavers turning the West into a petting zoo, which is what they're comfortable with.

Kevin Bracken

It is no coincidence that Brooklyn and the Bay Area are the top two hometowns of "burners" - people who attend the annual Burning Man festival in Nevada.

However, I believe there must be a fairly significant group alternatively hitting Toronto and New York - like me.

After all, those are the two epicentres of our Newmindspace events - the NYC pillow fight & Toronto pillow fight, subway parties, massive Capture the Flag games etc.

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